What We Mean When We Talk About … Jesus – More Inclusive Than Christian: Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast, Season 3, Episode 3
Sep 21, 2025

Summary
In this episode, Revs. Trudy Robinson and Hannah Ka continue the series “What We Really Mean When We Talk About …”—this time wrestling with the question: Who is Jesus, really? Drawing from Mark 9:38–40, where Jesus rebukes his disciples for excluding an outsider doing good in his name, they explore how Jesus’ life and ministry may have been far more inclusive than the exclusive claims often made by the institutional church.
Detail
In this episode, Revs. Trudy Robinson and Hannah Ka continue the series “What We Really Mean When We Talk About …”—this time wrestling with the question: Who is Jesus, really?
Drawing from Mark 9:38–40, where Jesus rebukes his disciples for excluding an outsider doing good in his name, they explore how Jesus’ life and ministry may have been far more inclusive than the exclusive claims often made by the institutional church.
Together, they wrestle with the tension between Jesus as a universal embodiment of God’s love and the narrow gate Christianity has sometimes turned him into.
It’s a thoughtful, sometimes challenging conversation about faith, identity, and what it means to follow Jesus in an interfaith and pluralistic world with a progressive understanding of theology.
Continue the dialogue with others through our in-person Convergence group or by joining our online community at patreon.com/fumcsd. Discussion questions for this episode:
- What is your relationship with Jesus?
- How do you understand Jesus’ relationship to other faith traditions?
- Which shapes your faith more—the life and teachings of Jesus, or his death and resurrection?
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