What We Mean When We Talk About … Church – Not the Be all, Or End All: Perspectives FUMCSD Pastors Podcast (S3E6)
Oct 12, 2025

Summary
In this week’s podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah of First United Methodist Church of San Diego confront the hypocrisy of the church through the ages as they wrap up the conversation series: “What We Really Mean When We Talk About…”
Detail
In this week’s podcast, Rev. Trudy and Rev. Hannah of First United Methodist Church of San Diego confront the hypocrisy of the church through the ages as they wrap up the conversation series: “What We Really Mean When We Talk About…”
They look to the Old Testament Book of Isaiah to see if today’s shifts in the church are new to modern culture, or if definition of worship and church have changed since the biblical times. (Spoiler alert: Our current moment in culture isn’t as unique as we may think from a church perspective!)
The conversation has a lot of twists and turns – looking back at the past – to inform and bring comfort to those who are seeking new ways to experience worship and church in our forever changing environment.
It’s a lot to consider, so we encourage you to engage in conversations with others as you dig deep to uncover your thoughts about church. You can do so through our in-person Convergence group or joining our online community at patreon.com/fumcsd.
Here are the discussion questions for this episode:
- Why is it so hard to encourage people to live in faith, not just engage to worship practices?
- What is the connection between worship and living in faith?
- If the church is not the be all and end all, what do you think it is meant to be?
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